Comments on: Personal Websites, Blogging & Facebook http://douglasryoung.net/2009/07/10/personal-websites-blogging-facebook/ Changing the Face of Conflict Mon, 06 Feb 2012 14:59:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Pete Turner http://douglasryoung.net/2009/07/10/personal-websites-blogging-facebook/comment-page-1/#comment-227 Pete Turner Mon, 17 Aug 2009 12:24:29 +0000 http://douglasryoung.theobloggers.com/?p=445#comment-227 "Jason Cole"....it genuinely saddens me that it's come to this. My family decided to leave Frisco CofC over this mess. We sorely miss a lot of our friends from there, but if the church's members are going to resort to this, I think we made the right decision. “Jason Cole”….it genuinely saddens me that it’s come to this. My family decided to leave Frisco CofC over this mess. We sorely miss a lot of our friends from there, but if the church’s members are going to resort to this, I think we made the right decision.

]]> By: nick gill http://douglasryoung.net/2009/07/10/personal-websites-blogging-facebook/comment-page-1/#comment-187 nick gill Tue, 14 Jul 2009 16:32:50 +0000 http://douglasryoung.theobloggers.com/?p=445#comment-187 The fact that Satan doesn't fear most of us is a huge condemnation. I can't think of many greater compliments to a Christian than the one Mae just gave Tisha. That is AWESOME! When congregations fight, Satan gleefully supplies ammunition to both sides. Keep yourself in the dust of Jesus' feet, Doug! The fact that Satan doesn’t fear most of us is a huge condemnation. I can’t think of many greater compliments to a Christian than the one Mae just gave Tisha. That is AWESOME!

When congregations fight, Satan gleefully supplies ammunition to both sides.

Keep yourself in the dust of Jesus’ feet, Doug!

]]> By: Maegan http://douglasryoung.net/2009/07/10/personal-websites-blogging-facebook/comment-page-1/#comment-186 Maegan Tue, 14 Jul 2009 12:25:57 +0000 http://douglasryoung.theobloggers.com/?p=445#comment-186 Doug, I have always enjoyed reading your blog, please don't stop because of people like Jason Cole (if that's his real name). Your posts have always made me reflect on where I'm at with my spiritual growth. Your letters were amazing and made me think about my personal relationships and how I needed to own them and enhance them! I love technology! You are 8 hours away but I can still learn and grow with you! Unfortunately I know most of the "dirty laundry" that happened at Frisco. It was ugly and still is ugly a month or more after you've left. I know I've told you this personally on a few occassions but I was amazed at how you conducted yourself the last few months. You were calm, you were level headed, and you publicly apologized for your wrongs. That's a lot more than I can say about how others behaved! Tisha dangerous? Tisha is the most passionate, giving, caring and loving person I've ever met. She gave a little boy a kidney, spends time at childrens homes, helps old people when they've lost their way, builds meaningful relationships, and has helped many women deal with their deepest darkest pains. Satan is the only one who should think Tisha is dangerous. Never forget that you are loved by many! We love you and your precious family! -Mae Doug, I have always enjoyed reading your blog, please don’t stop because of people like Jason Cole (if that’s his real name). Your posts have always made me reflect on where I’m at with my spiritual growth. Your letters were amazing and made me think about my personal relationships and how I needed to own them and enhance them! I love technology! You are 8 hours away but I can still learn and grow with you!

Unfortunately I know most of the “dirty laundry” that happened at Frisco. It was ugly and still is ugly a month or more after you’ve left. I know I’ve told you this personally on a few occassions but I was amazed at how you conducted yourself the last few months. You were calm, you were level headed, and you publicly apologized for your wrongs. That’s a lot more than I can say about how others behaved!

Tisha dangerous? Tisha is the most passionate, giving, caring and loving person I’ve ever met. She gave a little boy a kidney, spends time at childrens homes, helps old people when they’ve lost their way, builds meaningful relationships, and has helped many women deal with their deepest darkest pains. Satan is the only one who should think Tisha is dangerous.

Never forget that you are loved by many! We love you and your precious family!

-Mae

]]> By: Mat Cain http://douglasryoung.net/2009/07/10/personal-websites-blogging-facebook/comment-page-1/#comment-182 Mat Cain Mon, 13 Jul 2009 19:48:34 +0000 http://douglasryoung.theobloggers.com/?p=445#comment-182 I had a discussion a while back with Doug on the phone. In that discussion he told me that was looking for a new job (at that time) and he told me to keep it to myself. (It seems like the cats out of the bag now Doug - so I didn't figure you would mind me saying this now). However, Doug never acted like the "wounded party" in my conversation with him nor did he cast any blame. I had a discussion a while back with Doug on the phone. In that discussion he told me that was looking for a new job (at that time) and he told me to keep it to myself. (It seems like the cats out of the bag now Doug – so I didn’t figure you would mind me saying this now). However, Doug never acted like the “wounded party” in my conversation with him nor did he cast any blame.

]]> By: Kent Smith http://douglasryoung.net/2009/07/10/personal-websites-blogging-facebook/comment-page-1/#comment-177 Kent Smith Mon, 13 Jul 2009 15:49:31 +0000 http://douglasryoung.theobloggers.com/?p=445#comment-177 Doug, thanks for your post and your friendship. I want to tell the folks here what I know about Doug Young. I met Doug this year at the Tulsa workshop where I had an exhibit booth promoting my book. He and two brothers who were with him stopped by my table. Once he introduced himself to me and told me he had seen my book at Legacy Books in Plano, I asked him how things were going at the church in Frisco. The look on his face told me all I needed to know; things were not going well. Without being told what was happening there, I encouraged Doug to be strong. Over the coures of the next couple of months Doug and I played golf two times and had lunch together once. We also shared a few emails, and in all of those times Doug never once told me what the issues where with the congregation. He would say things were rough, but he never tried to place blame on anyone or anything. He never indicated who or what the problems were. I have to admire Doug for not making himself "the wounded party" and at the same time not airing the congregations dirty laundry, whatever that dirt may have been. God speed in Clovis, brother. Kent Smith grumpy@grumpysmith.com Doug, thanks for your post and your friendship. I want to tell the folks here what I know about Doug Young. I met Doug this year at the Tulsa workshop where I had an exhibit booth promoting my book. He and two brothers who were with him stopped by my table. Once he introduced himself to me and told me he had seen my book at Legacy Books in Plano, I asked him how things were going at the church in Frisco. The look on his face told me all I needed to know; things were not going well. Without being told what was happening there, I encouraged Doug to be strong. Over the coures of the next couple of months Doug and I played golf two times and had lunch together once. We also shared a few emails, and in all of those times Doug never once told me what the issues where with the congregation. He would say things were rough, but he never tried to place blame on anyone or anything. He never indicated who or what the problems were. I have to admire Doug for not making himself “the wounded party” and at the same time not airing the congregations dirty laundry, whatever that dirt may have been.
God speed in Clovis, brother.
Kent Smith
grumpy@grumpysmith.com

]]> By: nick gill http://douglasryoung.net/2009/07/10/personal-websites-blogging-facebook/comment-page-1/#comment-175 nick gill Mon, 13 Jul 2009 15:32:36 +0000 http://douglasryoung.theobloggers.com/?p=445#comment-175 Maybe I'm the odd man out in this situation, but I don't 100% agree with anyone! So according to the rules being explained in these comments, I'd have to preface every public relationship, every quotation, every statement I make with, "Now, I don't agree with everything..." Since we're talking about honesty, I'll admit that I don't agree with Jesus about everything yet. I'm quite certain he's right about everything, but that doesn't mean my mind has yet been transformed as it should. The safe thing would be not to join any groups at all -- but nowhere in the Scriptures are we taught to "play it safe." Jesus joined some pretty sketchy groups, and he didn't bail on them when he caught flak from the religious authorities, either. Doug, keep up the solid writing -- I'm sorry I'm not around here more often -- I'm putting you in my Google Reader right now. in HIS love, nick Maybe I’m the odd man out in this situation, but I don’t 100% agree with anyone! So according to the rules being explained in these comments, I’d have to preface every public relationship, every quotation, every statement I make with, “Now, I don’t agree with everything…”

Since we’re talking about honesty, I’ll admit that I don’t agree with Jesus about everything yet. I’m quite certain he’s right about everything, but that doesn’t mean my mind has yet been transformed as it should.

The safe thing would be not to join any groups at all — but nowhere in the Scriptures are we taught to “play it safe.” Jesus joined some pretty sketchy groups, and he didn’t bail on them when he caught flak from the religious authorities, either.

Doug, keep up the solid writing — I’m sorry I’m not around here more often — I’m putting you in my Google Reader right now.

in HIS love,
nick

]]> By: Mat Cain http://douglasryoung.net/2009/07/10/personal-websites-blogging-facebook/comment-page-1/#comment-174 Mat Cain Sun, 12 Jul 2009 03:21:55 +0000 http://douglasryoung.theobloggers.com/?p=445#comment-174 Doug - You did say you didn't agree with everything Rob Bell said - For the record. Why did you caution me? I am glad that you cautioned me that you didn't agree with everything from Mr. Bell - that was helpfull to know what I might be able to expect from Mr. Bell. While you liked some things from Mr. Bell (as I do) You didn't want to cast your approval to everything he presents. Obviously you see (saw) the importance of clarifying such things and I believe that is wise. I want to appeal to whatever it was in you that caused you to clarify things for me. Some will percieve your joining groups or becoming fans of those who would teach doctrines contrary to the Word of God as approval of them. And in joining such groups on facebook you really can't give the the warnings that you gave me about Rob Bell. Now lets be clear - I already said that I realize that being in those groups doesn't mean that you believe everything in the group... I am just pointing out that in joining those groups it might appear that you support such things because you cannot give the warnings that you might give in person if we were talking about the types of groups in question. I honestly would be wary of joining a Republican group for the same reason - or a NRA group or something like that. But I realize many Christians do. To answer your question I don't see much of a difference. About the Books - another good point. But if you loan a book from your library from a teacher that is a non-Christian or someone who fails to teach the Truth would you warn the one you were loaning the book to? I bet you would and you would be wise to do so. You warn/clarify/condition people and you do it for good reason... Unfortunatly you can't do that with facebook groups. It is a shame that people don't give the benefit of the doubt or consider the limitations with facebook groups... but that seems to be the way things are... It seems mr. cole seems to have proven your original point. Take Care, Mat Doug –
You did say you didn’t agree with everything Rob Bell said – For the record. Why did you caution me? I am glad that you cautioned me that you didn’t agree with everything from Mr. Bell – that was helpfull to know what I might be able to expect from Mr. Bell. While you liked some things from Mr. Bell (as I do) You didn’t want to cast your approval to everything he presents. Obviously you see (saw) the importance of clarifying such things and I believe that is wise. I want to appeal to whatever it was in you that caused you to clarify things for me.

Some will percieve your joining groups or becoming fans of those who would teach doctrines contrary to the Word of God as approval of them. And in joining such groups on facebook you really can’t give the the warnings that you gave me about Rob Bell. Now lets be clear – I already said that I realize that being in those groups doesn’t mean that you believe everything in the group… I am just pointing out that in joining those groups it might appear that you support such things because you cannot give the warnings that you might give in person if we were talking about the types of groups in question.

I honestly would be wary of joining a Republican group for the same reason – or a NRA group or something like that. But I realize many Christians do. To answer your question I don’t see much of a difference.

About the Books – another good point. But if you loan a book from your library from a teacher that is a non-Christian or someone who fails to teach the Truth would you warn the one you were loaning the book to? I bet you would and you would be wise to do so.

You warn/clarify/condition people and you do it for good reason… Unfortunatly you can’t do that with facebook groups.

It is a shame that people don’t give the benefit of the doubt or consider the limitations with facebook groups… but that seems to be the way things are…

It seems mr. cole seems to have proven your original point.

Take Care,
Mat

]]> By: Christopher Jagge http://douglasryoung.net/2009/07/10/personal-websites-blogging-facebook/comment-page-1/#comment-173 Christopher Jagge Sun, 12 Jul 2009 00:17:34 +0000 http://douglasryoung.theobloggers.com/?p=445#comment-173 Hi Doug, I also read blogs to understand people and gather knowledge. We used to read books to gather the understanding or write books to provide it, but technology has cut out all the middle men. This, for better AND worse, broadens and debases our options. How long before our twisted society considers some Twitter post as literature? I shudder! Jason Browning: becareful that in the rebuke of "Jason Cole" you do not become that which you condemn. Mr. Cole's post comes across as hostile and charity-lacking and his final line certainly is an ad hominem attack, BUT this reveals nothing of his motives or potential agenda. Personal characteristics certainly; agenda? Not at all. Sometimes those who complement, agree and flatter have agendas, but how often do we accuse them of such? Like all of us, Mr. Cole will be known by his fruits. As Christians use the internet to proclaim the gospel so do the vainglorious and banal use it to proclaim themselves. Let us all blog (AND comment) as becomes a Christian. Anyway... So how big is the new house and when can we all come visit? Christopher Hi Doug,
I also read blogs to understand people and gather knowledge. We used to read books to gather the understanding or write books to provide it, but technology has cut out all the middle men. This, for better AND worse, broadens and debases our options. How long before our twisted society considers some Twitter post as literature? I shudder!

Jason Browning: becareful that in the rebuke of “Jason Cole” you do not become that which you condemn. Mr. Cole’s post comes across as hostile and charity-lacking and his final line certainly is an ad hominem attack, BUT this reveals nothing of his motives or potential agenda. Personal characteristics certainly; agenda? Not at all. Sometimes those who complement, agree and flatter have agendas, but how often do we accuse them of such?

Like all of us, Mr. Cole will be known by his fruits.

As Christians use the internet to proclaim the gospel so do the vainglorious and banal use it to proclaim themselves. Let us all blog (AND comment) as becomes a Christian.

Anyway… So how big is the new house and when can we all come visit?
Christopher

]]> By: Theda Landry http://douglasryoung.net/2009/07/10/personal-websites-blogging-facebook/comment-page-1/#comment-172 Theda Landry Sat, 11 Jul 2009 16:29:48 +0000 http://douglasryoung.theobloggers.com/?p=445#comment-172 "For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world: but that the world through him might be saved." John 3:17. We should never forget the reason God sent his son. No need to worry about what others think or who they think we are following. We only need to follow Christ to the best of our ablily. We should only seek to please Him. “For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world: but that the world through him might be saved.” John 3:17. We should never forget the reason God sent his son. No need to worry about what others think or who they think we are following. We only need to follow Christ to the best of our ablily. We should only seek to please Him.

]]> By: Jason Browning http://douglasryoung.net/2009/07/10/personal-websites-blogging-facebook/comment-page-1/#comment-171 Jason Browning Sat, 11 Jul 2009 05:06:57 +0000 http://douglasryoung.theobloggers.com/?p=445#comment-171 This post by "Jason Cole" proves Doug's whole point of this post. It demonstrates how one's motive (agenda) really comes out in the way they speak to people. And then to not even come out with who he really is speaks even further volumes. Unbelievable! This post by “Jason Cole” proves Doug’s whole point of this post. It demonstrates how one’s motive (agenda) really comes out in the way they speak to people. And then to not even come out with who he really is speaks even further volumes. Unbelievable!

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